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Turtles
« on: May 18, 2011, 11:29 pm »
African turtles are best among all.Specially African black painted turtle is the popular and best in world.Direst purchase of this turtle is not very costly.But always get this turtle through legal sources and ways.The illegal buying and selling are now punishable offence.
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Re: Turtles
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2011, 11:40 pm »
I'm not getting a turtle so i don't have to worry about it.
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Re: Turtles
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2011, 02:47 am »
i got my turtle through some other jackasses neglect.  they stuffed him in a topiary type birdcage and tied him out in their yard is closest i can figure, and they didnt use strong enough string/line.  my neighbors dog had the cage in his mouth carying it around, and the turtle was all sucked inside his shell hiding...

he was dehydrated, and underweight, it didnt look like he had eaten more than shitty lawn clippings and maybe the occasional slow bug or slug for quite a while...  he's the BEST fucking turtle...

if he's illegal here, (he isnt) i didnt bring him here.  and i'll be damned if i'm going to turn him over to be destroyed just cause someone didnt do their paperwork.
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Re: Turtles
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2011, 11:28 am »
Quote from: Ellie Mae on May 19, 2011, 02:47 am
i got my turtle through some other jackasses neglect.
Ditto. Mine wasn't eating and had metabolic bone disease (soft shell) bad. At first, before I came home from work each die I had to mentally prepare myself for the fact that he may have died while I was away. I would check on him a couple times a night as well.

But now he's active, eating a healthy diet (non-vegan BTW, I'm not an idiot though he loves his "salad") and is pretty much a badass. He'll literally leap at me when I'm cleaning his shell, it's the cutest.

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Re: Turtles
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2011, 01:12 pm »
buddychrist, while i appreciate the sentiments, the constant cruisade for "ADOPT ONLY!" is getting kindof old and annoying.  some local shelters, in smaller towns dont deal in "exotics" like reptiles of any kind, and barely small mammals.

when i was a kid, i couldnt find a local vet to even LOOK at my leopard gecko.  one even replied to me... "no, we only take animals"  what the fuck, she's not a vegetable, yet, and she's not a mineral, yet, she's not COMPLETELY paralised, and she's not dead.  so she's an A N I M A L... i think the word you are looking for is "MAMMAL" dumbass...

anyway, so if the local vets dont even know, what are the shelters supposed to do?

so sure, now there's craigslist, but one only wants so many rescued sliders, or beardies, or ball pythons.  yes they're all wonderfull, and hell, if 1 is great, 5 is better, right?  but if you're just really wanting something different, then you just want something different.  and after a while, you feel like a creeper if you hang out on craigs list looking desperately looking for that "something different".  get off yer ass, do some research, you've probally already done that part if you really want a specific something different, and look into rescue groups, but sometimes there just arrent any.  so you need to go ahead, and be "evil" and be a RESPONSIBLE buyer.
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Re: Turtles
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2011, 04:34 pm »
Quote from: Astle on May 18, 2011, 11:29 pm
African turtles are best among all.
Mmmk?
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Specially African black painted turtle is the popular and best in world.Direst purchase of this turtle is not very costly.But always get this turtle through legal sources and ways.
Never heard of it. Scientific name, please
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The illegal buying and selling are now punishable offence.
If it's illegal, chances are the offense is punishable O_o

Quote from: Ellie Mae on May 19, 2011, 01:12 pm
when i was a kid, i couldnt find a local vet to even LOOK at my leopard gecko.  one even replied to me... "no, we only take animals"  what the fuck, she's not a vegetable, yet, and she's not a mineral, yet, she's not COMPLETELY paralised, and she's not dead.  so she's an A N I M A L... i think the word you are looking for is "MAMMAL" dumbass...
Man, I feel you. A lot of the vets up here are some fucking noobs. I took one of my leos to what I had been told was a "reptile specialist" and he asked me if I had a UVB light for it because they'd die without it. I got the fuck out.
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so sure, now there's craigslist, but one only wants so many rescued sliders, or beardies, or ball pythons.  yes they're all wonderfull, and hell, if 1 is great, 5 is better, right?  but if you're just really wanting something different, then you just want something different.  and after a while, you feel like a creeper if you hang out on craigs list looking desperately looking for that "something different".  get off yer ass, do some research, you've probally already done that part if you really want a specific something different, and look into rescue groups, but sometimes there just arrent any.  so you need to go ahead, and be "evil" and be a RESPONSIBLE buyer.
Word.

You wanna throw a piss fit at someone buddy, you need to go and throw it at people selling those baby turtles illegally at flea markets and shit, since that's where 90% the fuckery comes from.


I'm all for adoptions if someone wants them, but considering the plethora of bullshit that can come along with them, I'm not likely to unless I know that person because unfortunately I've been down that road and it's one costly vet bill after another. Though I have had some some success stories and adopt outs, my most recent being "Herbie", the Pac Man Frog who I adopted out to someone who already owned quite a few of them and Cornflake the Leopard Gecko, who I adopted out to a coworker who'd lost an uphill battle with a baby ball python who refused to feed.


But on that note, I'm will probably never get a turtle that isn't a common snapper or Sideneck either. Sliders need too much space and other shit
« Last Edit: May 19, 2011, 04:41 pm by Bitch Pudding »
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Re: Turtles
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2011, 05:00 pm »
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You wanna throw a piss fit at someone buddy, you need to go and throw it   at people selling those baby turtles illegally at flea markets and   shit, since that's where 90% the fuckery comes from.
Oh, I have. There is a man who sells them at a monthly festival here. They aren't supposed to sell them legally, but they use a loophole by selling the container they come in and the turtle it's self comes with it.

And Ellie, the reptile rescue I linked to will arrange transport for your adopted animal. And if people don't have an exotic animal vet in close proximity they should probably consider adopting a different pet. God knows there are plenty is no shortage of animals that need homes.
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Re: Turtles
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2011, 05:07 pm »
Quote from: buddy-christ on May 19, 2011, 05:00 pm
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You wanna throw a piss fit at someone buddy, you need to go and throw it   at people selling those baby turtles illegally at flea markets and   shit, since that's where 90% the fuckery comes from.
Oh, I have. There is a man who sells them at a monthly festival here. They aren't supposed to sell them legally, but they use a loophole by selling the container they come in and the turtle it's self comes with it.
That's...not a loophole. It's still illegal. You can't distribute them either, barring a few circumstances. That's not one of them. Go get in touch with the FDA. Just wanted to point that out
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So if a pound of beef takes 3,500 gallons of water, what difference does it make? How many vegetarians drive a car? To make a car (including tires), it takes about 40,000 gallons of fresh water. That's not including the gas it takes to run the car, the electricity to run the gas station, the water used to create the boat that brought your precious oil, the water used to create the pavement you drive on, the destruction of toxic chemicals that went into creating your clothes, and the electricity you use every day to send me stupid emails over the internet. Every year you are directly responsible for the consumption of billions of gallons of water. There are 26 million people suffering preventable brain damage from iodine deficiency, and another 1.5 billion people at risk. Nevermind that, you have animals to save. By driving your cars, you pump billions of tons of poison into the atmosphere and you're slowly killing us all. The computer you use requires 250 watts of electricity, let alone the billions of computers required to keep you on the internet. All consuming energy. All contributing to pollution. Let's just ignore those minor hypocrisies. Someone wants to enjoy a burger and you'll be damned if you're going to let them.
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Re: Turtles
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2011, 06:29 pm »
no buddy, they wont.  and just because you've chosen to make "ADOPT ONLY" your own personal lil cruisade, does not make you a saint, or even 100% correct in your thinking.  YOU feel free to adopt only.  YOU feel free to adopt all the unwanted ferrals, and simply unwanted mutt kittens from the shelter.  but there isnt a snowballs chance in hell of me finding a hairless cat at my local shelter.  or a fucking "skinny pig".  and if i intend to have either of these animals at some point in my life, which i do, i'm going to need to find a BREEDER... yes, there's that evil sinnfull word, breeder...

now, i have no intention of wandering through the amazon, and stuffing wild flora and fauna in my shirt and pants, and trying to casually waddle my fat ass across the border smuggling a shitton of poison dart frogs and wild born maccaws.  i agree wholeheartedly that THAT is wrong.  my favorite parrot is most likely wild capture, and while i love him to death, i know he'd probally be much happier had some douchebag never grabbed him from his tree.  there is nothing, NOTHING i can do about that NOW.  he cant be re released, it's been like 20 or so years.  all that can be done, is he can be made as happy and comfy as possible.

the turtles that were captured wild, sure it's awfull, stop doing that.  but why make their eggs and young suffer?  why do they not deserve a home just as much as a young hatchling whos parents were also captive bred?

catch the people snatching animals out of the wild.  catch the people OBVIOUSLY making a buck off wild critters.

 leave people who cant figure out turtles like to fuck alone.  turtles like to fuck.  they make babies, and the guy who has 2 or more red eared sliders might not even know which ones are girls or boys unless you catch them in the act...  and by that time it's too damn late, you'll have a nest of damn eggs, and what the hell are you supposed to do with them?  i bet they taste like shit...  are you supposed to keep all dozen or so babies and try to keep THEM from fucking as they grow up?  NO!    you try to be responsible, and you find fucking homes for them.

jesus, it's so fucking terrible, trying to find homes for your over abundance of turtles... how fucking awfull... should i start heating up the tar?  where will we find animal friendly feathers?

yes i know, SOME people do this as a "business" so fucking what?  some people breed chickens for the sole purpose of eating them too.  happens with pigs, cows, and hell, in some countries, even frogs and turtles.

the view mush be nice from your high horse buddychrist.  you ever get nosebleeds up there?

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