What is Animal Rights?

[doglady]

Last week a dachsund was attacked and killed by a coyote pack in a Calgary park, another dog was mauled but managed to escape.

Updated: Fri Aug. 20 2010 17:42:59

ctvcalgary.ca

A Calgary man could only watch in horror as a pack of coyotes attacked the dogs he was caring for.

It happened on Friday afternoon at Nose Hill Park.

Quinn Kliewer was biking with five dogs. His four-legged friends were off leash and running behind the bike.

Kliewer heard Jack, his Dachshund, yelp. When he turned he saw coyotes attacking it. They dragged the small dog into the trees before he could do anything.

Within moments more coyotes attacked the four other dogs with him.

Kliewer says there were up to eight coyotes, and they appeared to be in two separate groups.

The Dachshund was killed by the coyotes; another one of the dogs was mauled but managed to get away.

So my question is, which animal`s rights over-ride the rights of the other in this case?

Do the rights of the coyote, being wild, over-ride the rights of the domestic dogs?

[I've got the best usernym on the Shit Field]

So my question is, which animal`s rights over-ride the rights of the other in this case?

Do the rights of the coyote, being wild, over-ride the rights of the domestic dogs?

Anyone who has children or animals under his/her responsibility and in his/her care has the right to defend those individuals against human or non-human attackers. That's about it.

[Medium Rare]

So my question is, which animal`s rights over-ride the rights of the other in this case?

Do the rights of the coyote, being wild, over-ride the rights of the domestic dogs?

Anyone who has children or animals under his/her responsibility and in his/her care has the right to defend those individuals against human or non-human attackers. That's about it.

So, I come home and my neighbors pit bull has killed one of my chickens. Do I shoot the owner of the dog or let the dog go to court for murder?

[I've got the best usernym on the Shit Field]

So, I come home and my neighbors pit bull has killed one of my chickens.

Then it's too late to defend them.

[Medium Rare]

So, I come home and my neighbors pit bull has killed one of my chickens.

Then it's too late to defend them.

So they get away with murdering the chicken unpunished? Yeah, animal rights will never become reality.

[UmBongo]

A dog is unlikely to 'murder' a chicken. Murder requires intent of harm and pretty much malicious aforethought. Dog will probably kill the chicken for either territorial, food or other reasons. Anyways, if it did happen, it will be the neighbour to blame for not securing the dog - also you to blame for not securing your chickens. If you're keeping a prey animal in a free range way you will still have to make sure no predator can get in.

Also, animal rights is already a reality for some animals under the care of ARA's.

[I've got the best usernym on the Shit Field]

A dog is unlikely to 'murder' a chicken. Murder requires intent of harm and pretty much malicious aforethought. Dog will probably kill the chicken for either territorial, food or other reasons. Anyways, if it did happen, it will be the neighbour to blame for not securing the dog - also you to blame for not securing your chickens. If you're keeping a prey animal in a free range way you will still have to make sure no predator can get in.

Also, animal rights is already a reality for some animals under the care of ARA's.

Yes, 'murder' is an immoral and/or illegal act, and thus applying the word to non-human behavior is (as opposed to how people misuse the term on this board) an actual case of anthropomorphism.

[Medium Rare]

Well, good thing we don't go by what an ARA wants.

[Pollock]

Also, animal rights is already a reality for some animals under the care of ARA's.

Can't put my finger on it, but something about that sounds weird.......Hmmmm.

[UmBongo]

A true ARA will make sure an animals rights are seen to to the best of their ability. Obviously, there will be idiots who don't understand how to care for animals properly and end up going against AR.

[Medium Rare]

Murder requires intent of harm and pretty much malicious aforethought.

That dog had every intent of killing that chicken. Pretty much proves my point, thank you. LWOP!

Dog will probably kill the chicken for either territorial, food or other reasons.

Other reasons? No kidding, really. LOL

[doglady]

Also, animal rights is already a reality for some animals under the care of ARA's.

Can you please give some examples?

[Jeni]

It seems to me that "We" as a society already recognise that animals have rights otherwise there would be no animal welfare laws.
Amiright?

[I've got the best usernym on the Shit Field]

It seems to me that "We" as a society already recognise that animals have rights otherwise there would be no animal welfare laws.
Amiright?

I guess we could characterize some animal welfare legislation as granting animals the right not to be used in some ways (like dog fighting) that are arbitrarily categorized as "unnecessary".

[Badattituud]

It seems to me that "We" as a society already recognise that animals have rights otherwise there would be no animal welfare laws.
Amiright?

I always considered AW laws to be for us to uphold our moral obligations to animals.