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Animal domestication in human evolution
spud:
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--- Quote from: Badattituud on August 03, 2010, 06:21 pm ---Who's to say that domestication is inherently non-compassionate?
This is something that animals and humans have been working out for millions of years. Has it ever been perfect? No. Will it ever be perfect? Probably not. That doesn't mean that we have a moral obligation to treat our domesticated animals as good as possible (not just humanely, but well) and to provide a quick and painless death.
However, like it or not, the human species evolved as dependent of their domesticated animals as the animals to the humans. Millions of years is not some ill-thought-out fad - it's the way we ARE. Instead of working against millions of years of evolution, why not work with it to improve us as human beings?
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I am working to improve us as a human race, the quicker we evolve the better for all animal kind.
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In order for us to completely eliminate our need for domestic animals, we are going to have to evolve into a whole different species - you are looking into the extremely long term - millions of years.
Good luck with that :)
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It's a start.
Angry Dog:
I'm of no mood to de-evolve, personally. Especially since it seems we'd get dumber, not smarter and would most likely need more food to sustain ourselves, not less
Badattituud:
--- Quote from: spud on August 03, 2010, 07:17 pm ---
--- Quote from: Badattituud on August 03, 2010, 06:59 pm ---
--- Quote from: spud on August 03, 2010, 06:28 pm ---
--- Quote from: Badattituud on August 03, 2010, 06:21 pm ---Who's to say that domestication is inherently non-compassionate?
This is something that animals and humans have been working out for millions of years. Has it ever been perfect? No. Will it ever be perfect? Probably not. That doesn't mean that we have a moral obligation to treat our domesticated animals as good as possible (not just humanely, but well) and to provide a quick and painless death.
However, like it or not, the human species evolved as dependent of their domesticated animals as the animals to the humans. Millions of years is not some ill-thought-out fad - it's the way we ARE. Instead of working against millions of years of evolution, why not work with it to improve us as human beings?
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I am working to improve us as a human race, the quicker we evolve the better for all animal kind.
--- End quote ---
In order for us to completely eliminate our need for domestic animals, we are going to have to evolve into a whole different species - you are looking into the extremely long term - millions of years.
Good luck with that :)
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It's a start.
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Do you mind if we AWA's do our best to make animal agriculture as humane as possible in the meanwhile?
Bazinga!!:
"Domestication" as a term is as useless as it can get..
If my old horse could talk.. I tell ya.. I gave him a great home for 20 years.. he LOVED being "domesticated" (if you want to call it that) and was the gentlest.. kindess soul ever to exist..
Animals, if they could talk, would advocate "domestication".. under the conditions they are treated with kindness and respect...
This was a 2,000 lb, 17.3hh Thoroughbred gelding... he didn't "have" to do a damn thing..
Here is is with my (now teenage) son... a few years before he passed, peacefully...
nothing on that huge horse but a 7 year old and a rope halter (no bit in his mouth, for non horsey folk)
a 5 year old and a gentle giant..
Like I said.. if that horse could talk...
I don't disagree the "luxury" of having animals is abused.. but to assume all animals would rather be turned loose, or are unhappy in their homes.. no matter the species.. is ridiculous..
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