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Liberal Hypocrisy on the race card...
PostalBeanMachine:
I wanted to share this with you guys... this fellah... a native of the Massachusetts Commonwealth (don't that sound eerily like the title of a Soviet Bloc state?):
Ernie Ruest
Northeast Mass Area Local
Editor
- Sunday, January 18, 2004 at 04:12:35 (PST)
Vern,
Once again you avoid the question.
Conservatives have a 60 year history of being on the wrong side of civil rights legislation. That's something you don't just shrug your shoulders at and make up for by laying a wreath or making a look-good show of granting a holiday.
It comes down to ACTIONS, and the silence coming from the right on race issues is more telling than anything.
As for the African-American "heroes" you rattle off, what's their general standing in the African-American community themselves?
How come YOU want to be able to dictate to African-Americans who their heroes should be, while widely ridiculing their own POPULAR choices? (Charlie Rangel, Jesse Jackson, etc.)
Sounds like a little Southern mentality going there Vern: "Let ME pick which one of you will be your spokeseman, fellas....."
The problem with most conservatives is that they've somehow been made to feel comfortable with their bigotry over the past 25 years. There was a time when we, as a nation, laughed at Archie Bunker's ignorance and racism.
Now conservatives point to Archie Bunker and actually AGREE with him. Conservatives think it's their RIGHT to be greedy, selfish, and bigoted.
Yeah Vern, it's your RIGHT to think that way, but it doesn't MAKE you right.
Conservatives have been on the wrong side of issues, routinely apologizing and repositioning themselves years after they've been proven wrong. And since you raised the subject Vern, methinks you'll be repositioning yourself a decade from now on gay rights too.
The liberal agenda is coming Vern, like it or not. Stop and think about it: all the conservative "success" you brag about is based on overturning what we liberals have ALREADY won.
Liberals gave people Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, the GI Bill, the Clean Air and Water Act, Civil rights legislation, FMLA, affirmative action and yes, Roe vs Wade. Those were all OUR victories, Vern, and we won em years ago.
Keep chipping away at em though, and patting yourselves on the back like you're doing something. But check the scoreboard while you're at it.
We're still up ten touchdowns.
My response:
Vern Davidson Jr.
Cape Girardeau Area Local 4088, MO
APWU Member, 'persona non grata" & Conservative Independent@Large
- Monday, January 19, 2004 at 12:33:13 (PST)
Ernie... on Archie Bunker...
Have you ever watched that show? If you had, I'm quite sure that you would have understood that the Archie character was a good-humored jab, poking fun at the ignorance his character portrayed. Archie was the punchline.
Once again, you avoid the questions... (I've been waiting for quite some time for those.... remember?) Which president signed the law creating the Martin Luther King holiday?
What year was the Martin Luther King Jr. national holiday first observed?
I suppose your implication is that liberal Democrats have been champions for civil rights over the past 60 years? Look... liberal Democrats are as concerned about minorities as they are arsenic... their concern only goes as far as minorities' and arsenic's usefullness, as a policical tool.
God forbid, the minorities in this country become successful on their own efforts, free to decide their options on their terms... why would they need Jesse or Democrats?
Over two decades ago, President Reagan predicted that, “a thriving minority business community will be instrumental in bettering the lives of those formerly excluded from the prosperity enjoyed by most Americans.”
Take the time to read this letter, Ernie. Note that this is not a publication of the CATO institute, nor is it from the desk of Dubya. It was written by an anonymous economist from the University of Texas at Austin. Note the date of the letter... note and interpret the message. Ask yourself... why would President Clinton's administration attempt to end the federal government's Survey of Minority Owned Businesses? Perhaps those findings would expose some of the truths behind what I'm saying?
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/45a/211.html
Perhaps the survey may have exposed this little factoid, regarding Clinton's appointee, assigned to protect and represent the interests of minority-owned contracting firms?:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/12/12/195828.shtml
Ernie, is it not a fact that it was under the Reagan Administration that the Disadvantaged Business Enterprise program was created in 1982 and expanded to include women-owned businesses in 1987?
Is it not a fact that in 1991 and 1992 Congress enacted, and President Bush signed, statutes reauthorizing the expanded DBE program?
It is it not a fact that the DBE program, initiated under the Reagan administration lead to the greatest growth and expansion of minority-owned businesses in the eighties and continued into the 1990's?
Please, Ernie, answer those questions...
Damn... libs hate facts, don't they?
Added Note: You will notice I included the word factoid. This does not mean that my statements and the supporting facts are misleading, rather, this is part of a year-long study I am doing on the crippling effects of the mental ailment, commonly referred to as liberalism.
You see, I have used the term "factoid" in many of my posts, to see if libs would catch it and point it out. None have. While studies are still underway, this leads me to believe what I have suspected for a couple of years now:
Liberals are incapable of recognizing a factoid.... it's like uploading one of those indecipherable, unsolvable math problems you load into a hard drive to fry it.
Ultimately, for a liberal to consciously recognize its existance would tear down a liberal's belief system and leave him in a vegetative state.
londonandlawson:
lol...i bet he doesnt reply
PostalBeanMachine:
Oh no... this dude is a hard core pinko
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Ernie Ruest
Northeast Mass Area Local
Editor
- Monday, January 19, 2004 at 18:02:26 (PST)
You're right Vern,
8% of African-Americans vote Repugnican for the right reasons you mention; it's the other 92% who vote Democratic who have it wrong.
The Repugnican party is one of long-standing problems with race, plain and simple. Everything they've done to advance the cause of civil rights or in combatting discrimination and racism has been largely symbolic and usually happens under political duress.
The Shrub has mastered this political double-speak: In the 2000 campaign he boasted of Texas' toughest environmental protections ever coming into law during his tenure as governor. Of course, he failed to mention the fact the law came into law because the state legislature OVERTURNING his veto.
Duh. Vern, do you really think it's the same thing, and that people fall for such gimmicks?
Typical Repugnican thinking: Let's let the agreeable 8% and the Colin Powell's of the nation set the tone for the other 82%.
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Ernie Ruest <ernie_ruest@yahoo.com>
Northeast Mass Area Local
Editor
- Monday, January 19, 2004 at 18:10:39 (PST)
Bush's REAL State Of The Union:
"Things are going great since I lied to you all here last year. Sure, I kind of got it wrong on that silly weapons of mass destruction thing, as well as the ties between Saddam and the 9/11 terrorists, but hey, I'm counting on you all ignoring that."
"I know that over the past three years we've lost a whopping 3 million jobs in the U.S. but hey, we created a net-gain of 1000 jobs last quarter, and that's a start, right? Oh yeah, and don't forget the other 500 new slots in the armed forces, caused by our troops getting killed in Iraq. Yes people, things are really picking up for our country."
"And lastly, let's not forget my efforts to
strip away collective bargaining rights of workers everywhere. I succeeded in taking away the union rights of 170,000 federal workers last year, and in case you haven't figured it out, I'm going after about 400,000 postal workers this year."
"Don't worry about that last thing though, because Vern assures me that 40% of his co-workers actually WANT this to happen."
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Vern Davidson Jr. <vern.davidson@sbcglobal.net>
Cape Area Local 4088
- Monday, January 19, 2004 at 22:46:53 (PST)
Oh yeah, Ernie.... same ol' vicious cycle... I present a few of those hateful facts and you call me a bad union member... ho-hum....
"Everything they've done to advance the cause of civil rights or in combatting discrimination and racism has been largely symbolic and usually happens under political duress." Hmmmm.... sounds strangely like the description I gave for Liberal motivations on race, does it not?
"Typical Repugnican thinking: Let's let the agreeable 8% and the Colin Powell's of the nation set the tone for the other 82%." Dang Ernie... did you almost type "Uncle Tom"?
Ernie, are you on the record, stating that you know what is best for 8% of African-Americans... that you know what is better for them than they do??? Pompous cracker! (Grin)
But seriously... can you answer those questions?
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Vern Davidson Jr.
Cape Girardeau Area Local 4088, MO
APWU Member, 'persona non grata" & Conservative Independent@Large
- Tuesday, January 20, 2004 at 18:06:15 (PST)
H.R .7152 passed the House on February 10, 1964. Of the 420 members who voted, 290 supported the civil rights bill and 130 opposed it. Republicans favored the bill 138 to 34; Democrats supported it 152-96. It is interesting to note that Democrats from northern states voted overwhelmingly for the bill, 141 to 4, while Democrats from southern states voted overwhelmingly against the bill, 92 to 11.
Hmmmm... it would appear that if all Rebublicans were the racist Nazis Ernie and other critics would have you to believe, the civil rights act would have never passed... even with the vast numbers advantage owned by the Democrats during that vote...
"The Senate had 100 members (67 Democrats and 33 Republicans)in 1964. Therefore, with all members voting, #67 had to support cloture in order for such a move to succeed. The number needed for civil rights bill passage was 67 and there were 67 Democrats, enough to pass the bill without a single Republican vote. The Democrats, however, were split. Eighteen southern Democrats filibustered against the bill, reducing possible Democratic supporters to 49. Subtract Senators Gore and Walters of Tennessee who opposed cloture in principle, although they did not participate in the filibuster. Robert Byrd of West Virginia opposed both the bill and cloture, although he did not join the filibuster forces either. Democratic leaders could not count on Senators Bible, Cannon, and Hayden who represented small states and who believed that unlimited debate favored small states in other matters. Finally, subtract from the ranks of Democratic supporters Senator Lausche of Ohio whose vote no one could predict. Out of a total of 67 Democrats, then, only 42 could be counted on to favor the bill. This left the pro-civil rights forces 25 votes short of the necessary 67."
"In order to secure 67 votes to end debate and to proceed with consideration of H.R. 7152, the Senate required help from 25 of the 33 Republican senators. Six Republicans refused to support the bill under any conditions, leaving 27, or 2 more than the required 25 votes. Yet 7 of the 27 were leaning against cloture. It was this group of 7 Republican senators that held the key to the 1964 civil rights legislation."
Source: http://www.congresslink.org/
Are these lies, Bro. Ernie?
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