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Posted by: Medium Rare« on: February 19, 2012, 02:17 pm »Ugh I'm a noob, I can't even figure out which font size and type settings are the norm. No worries, everyone has been a noob. Note that this is not a pass on teasing. Nobody gets a pass on teasing. Except me. No, on second thought, not even me. Posted by: Fenris« on: February 19, 2012, 02:59 am »PeTA and all those other ARA groups are trying to get rights for all cute animals. So I used an example of probably the stupidest animal I know. I grew up in farming country, we couldn't get the cattle moving without a dog or cattle prod, or a full out wrangling session (ah the memories of that and I was only 5... watched on the side lines). I kicked a horse once cause it kicked me.... I felt that if it could kick me for no reason (I think I might have spooked it a little, I don't remember, I was 12), I could kick it back. Not a hard kick mind you... the horse got away with no injuries while I suffered from a cracked rib and a very large bruise.... not very fair on my part, but I don't like hurting animals. Another horse that I used to ride on the ranch. It was a christian camp and he was a problem horse. Very biiiig too. I'm the only one who would attempt to even ride him. First day he tried bucking me off, which ended up with the pinkie side of my hand bruised cause I popped him one between the ears. Settled right down. After that, we had no problems even though others still did. I feel that respect was given on that day cause every time after that, even if it was a year later and still giving troubles to even experienced ranch hands, I was the only one who was able to ride him. Posted by: Megraptor« on: February 18, 2012, 07:02 pm »PeTA and all those other ARA groups are trying to get rights for all cute animals. So I used an example of probably the stupidest animal I know. I grew up in farming country, we couldn't get the cattle moving without a dog or cattle prod, or a full out wrangling session (ah the memories of that and I was only 5... watched on the side lines). I kicked a horse once cause it kicked me.... I felt that if it could kick me for no reason (I think I might have spooked it a little, I don't remember, I was 12), I could kick it back. Not a hard kick mind you... the horse got away with no injuries while I suffered from a cracked rib and a very large bruise.... not very fair on my part, but I don't like hurting animals. I have a horse... He's a brat. Rayne and I were into hunter-jumping in the Morgan horse world. We've been through a lot, including violence towards each other, but he doesn't hate me for that. If anything he hates me cause we don't show anymore, cause I went off to college. I still love him though, even if he is moody towards me. Mom has a Morgan horse breeding farm so I've been bit, kicked, stomped, rolled over on, laid down upon, and who knows what else. Baby horses get their teeth in fast, so they go from sucking on your fingers one day to trying to ch omp on them like carrots the next. The best way to stop that is to bop them on the nose. And yup, the best way to solve a kicking thing, especially if they hurt you, is to kick back and aim for the belly. They have a lot stronger legs and ribs then we do. And they can do a lot more damage to us, and can handle beating each other up. That's why animals can't have human rights... Because they rely on violence to dominate each other If they kill one of their own kind, then in our society they'd be in jail, even if it was because it was their "culture" or whatever. Ugh I'm a noob, I can't even figure out which font size and type settings are the norm.  Posted by: Fenris« on: February 18, 2012, 01:41 am »Here's my favorite saying: My penis is so small that it's an innie!!!! Usually it takes a while for them to figure out that I mean I have a vagina instead of a penis. Sometimes they take it as that I'm fat. I don't really care how they take it, I get a giggle out of it. You can definitely use it. Not like I have a copyright on it or anything.  PeTA and all those other ARA groups are trying to get rights for all cute animals. So I used an example of probably the stupidest animal I know. I grew up in farming country, we couldn't get the cattle moving without a dog or cattle prod, or a full out wrangling session (ah the memories of that and I was only 5... watched on the side lines). I kicked a horse once cause it kicked me.... I felt that if it could kick me for no reason (I think I might have spooked it a little, I don't remember, I was 12), I could kick it back. Not a hard kick mind you... the horse got away with no injuries while I suffered from a cracked rib and a very large bruise.... not very fair on my part, but I don't like hurting animals. Posted by: Badattituud« on: February 17, 2012, 11:55 pm »Hi Megraptor, welcome to P-S.  Sorry too tired to elaborate Posted by: doglady« on: February 17, 2012, 10:56 pm »Hi Megraptor, welcome to P-S.
Keep up the good work. Posted by: Megraptor« on: February 17, 2012, 09:23 pm »Here's my favorite saying: My penis is so small that it's an innie!!!! Usually it takes a while for them to figure out that I mean I have a vagina instead of a penis. Sometimes they take it as that I'm fat. I don't really care how they take it, I get a giggle out of it. THAT IS THE MOST AWESOME SAYING EVER. I wanna use it! There was a court case recently that PeTA or whoever took SeaWorld(?) to court for their Orcas because of the first amendment (I think, somebody please correct me on this if I'm wrong). Here's what I think: If animals fall under constitution (amendment, whatever, I'm not from the U.S. so I have no idea about these things), they fall under all of them. Which can cause a lot of problem. Since they do not understand them, will there be a ARA accompanying each and every animal, making sure they follow them? Will there be an assigned task force that makes sure they don't "break" any of the amendments or laws? Again, higher taxes will need to paid in order to enforce laws. Exactly, and it's the 13th amendment. See, the amendments are there for everyone- that is, every human. You can't enslave a kid, or a mental person either. But like I said, they can't kill, and can be taxed. The have free speech. They KINDA have rights to arms, but you need a license before you can have them, and if the mental person can't pass the test well... yeah. Same with a kid, but they usually start around here at 12 I think. Everyone can have a court trial, also. I don't pretend I understand the constitution, nor do I care cause I'm not a US citizen, but seriously.... anything that is given rights falls under the law. There won't be special made laws that only animals have to follow, cause they won't follow law. They don't have the skills to do so (AKA reading and the cognitive ability to understand them). We already have laws pertaining to animals, they are a bit slack and need tightening up a bit. It's called Animal Welfare, if anything, we need to focus on that instead of "rights". Would each individual species have laws? Would each country have laws for their native species? Example: If cows were given laws (beyond all exalted religious standing), like "cows are only allowed to eat this grass on a specific time/date/etc", do you really think they will be able to understand that law. Have even tried reasoning with a cow? If you have, you know it's a lost cause. If you haven't... it's a lost cause. Cows are adorable, but I'm not gonna even try and stand up for their intelligence. I live in farming country, and cows... well they are peaceful, but intelligent is not what I would call them. I used dolphins because they are supposed to be so smart, and friendly. But not even they can follow our laws... Posted by: ellie mae« on: February 17, 2012, 05:34 pm »excuse me cba, you can just go fuck yourself.
the giant chineese salamander is fucking ADORABLE, and i would hug one way before i would hug you. i wouldnt hug you if your grandmother just burst into flames in front of you. i'd rather hug your grandmother. Posted by: Fenris« on: February 17, 2012, 04:08 pm »(Please don't tell me I have a small male genitalia, I have already received many comments from people who have claimed that. They do not like it when I say I am a girl Here's my favorite saying: My penis is so small that it's an innie!!!! Usually it takes a while for them to figure out that I mean I have a vagina instead of a penis. Sometimes they take it as that I'm fat. I don't really care how they take it, I get a giggle out of it. Anyways, WELCOME TO THE BOARDS! You make some very good points, valid points to boot. As I have stated in a different thread, that if we give animals rights, they still fall under our law. Therefore, if an animal kills even one of us, even if it's in defense of their territory, they have to be jailed, put on trial, executed, etc. All of which us taxpayers have to pay. Really, if people thought about it, giving animals right would increase our taxes and I don't think PeTA-driven vegans will get a tax break just because they voted not to kill them. If anything, they should be taxed higher cause they're the ones who wanted it that way. There was a court case recently that PeTA or whoever took SeaWorld(?) to court for their Orcas because of the first amendment (I think, somebody please correct me on this if I'm wrong). Here's what I think: If animals fall under constitution (amendment, whatever, I'm not from the U.S. so I have no idea about these things), they fall under all of them. Which can cause a lot of problem. Since they do not understand them, will there be a ARA accompanying each and every animal, making sure they follow them? Will there be an assigned task force that makes sure they don't "break" any of the amendments or laws? Again, higher taxes will need to paid in order to enforce laws. I don't pretend I understand the constitution, nor do I care cause I'm not a US citizen, but seriously.... anything that is given rights falls under the law. There won't be special made laws that only animals have to follow, cause they won't follow law. They don't have the skills to do so (AKA reading and the cognitive ability to understand them). We already have laws pertaining to animals, they are a bit slack and need tightening up a bit. It's called Animal Welfare, if anything, we need to focus on that instead of "rights". Would each individual species have laws? Would each country have laws for their native species? Example: If cows were given laws (beyond all exalted religious standing), like "cows are only allowed to eat this grass on a specific time/date/etc", do you really think they will be able to understand that law. Have even tried reasoning with a cow? If you have, you know it's a lost cause. If you haven't... it's a lost cause. I'm rambling on about the same things over and over again... so I'm gonna stop while I'm ahead and walk away with my ADD riddled head held high. xD Posted by: Megraptor« on: February 17, 2012, 02:28 pm »Lol I came across kinda strong... Eh, oh well
The original post here was really good. Thank you very much.  I am glad someone thinks so.Megraptorus, proper management of our renewable resources will ensure future generations can also fish and hunt. As for animal rights, not going to happen here. Fortunately. I agree completely. I believe everything (except the worst off species) can have a quota on them. Just because they are intelligent, cute, whatever it shouldn't matter. If it's edible, and it is good shape population-wise, then dig in. I hope animal rights won't happen, but I have friends that seem to think otherwise. The ARA's people like to target young women and girls because they seem to be the most emotionally sensitive.... I guess... Just an observation. Sorry for the double post, I just saw some posts I wanted to reply to.  Posted by: Megraptor« on: February 17, 2012, 02:20 pm »Megraptorus here. Actually, just Megraptor now.
Firstly, this wasn't addressed to all ARA's and vegans. Never did I say ALL. This was addressed to the people who want to change people using VIOLENCE, TERRORISM, RACISM, and SEXISM. And also to the hypocritical people who say it ok to kill this one animals, but not this one because it is CUTE or what have you. There's people that feed their cat's vegan diets. So they do exist. Like I said not addressed to all of you, stop assuming. There's some species, like the vaquita, gharial, West Indian Ocean coelacanth, baiji (if it still alive) and the Chinese giant salamander that NO ONE TALKS ABOUT. Those species are all critically endangered, and I never see anyone talking about the,. It's always SAVE THE WHALES, DOLPHINS. and SEALS. The Japanese don't HACK at them. That's illegal in Japanese law. The only way that a dolphin can be killed in Japanese law is by harpooning/stabbing through the spinal cord, which severs the cord. If they don't do that, it is ILLEGAL. Whether or not they do that isn't my business, it's the Japanese governments. Murder is still applicable to children and mental patients. If they kill another human, they can be charged and have a court case. We don't excuse it because they are a child or a mentally ill. So let's take dolphins. Bottlenose dolphins kill their young every once in a while. By law, which we all follow in the USA, they would have to be charged with murder. They can't testify if they did or didn't, but if someone filmed them, they evidence against them. Then what? Death penalty? Or jail for life? So then we need dolphin jails. Or what if they kill a human? Same deal? Because if we killed them, we would be thrown in jail if they had 'rights' Then we need to start taxing dolphins because we are providing a service- jail- to them. The mentally handicapped and children are still taxed here in the US. We have income tax, property tax, goods tax, bank account tax. Do we start taxing the dolphins when they are in US coastal waters? I know alive prey can fight back. Most predators kill as soon as possible? What about a hyena ripping off a squealing warthog leg? Or a bear gnawing on a moose's back. A wolf chewing off a lamb's face? Or here's an interesting one. I live on a horse farm. We had a mare (female horse) chew off her foal's back, stop here, and refuse to feed her. We had barn cats that we free to come and go that would eat their young. Region isn't all about Christianity's "sky fairy." There's religions that believe in a myriad of things. AND GUESS WHAT. IT'S SHAPED EVERY CULTURE ON EARTH. From Muslims not eating pork, and Jews not eating shellfish, and Hindus not eating beef. In the case of Japanese people, their strong Shinto and Buddhism overtones from the past have shaped their culture. They believe that every animal, human, and plant (and some non-living things) is equal, and before they eat, they pray to not their "Sky fairy's" but to the plants and animals that sacrificed their life so they can continue living. They believe all killing is bad, but realize that they have to kill to live. You can deny God(s) and Goddess(es) exist, but you can't deny religion doesn't exist. It's their choice, not your's, not mine. "You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist." -Friedrich Nietzach- Friedrich Nietzsch Posted by: Medium Rare« on: February 17, 2012, 02:18 pm »Megraptorus, proper management of our renewable resources will ensure future generations can also fish and hunt. As for animal rights, not going to happen here. Fortunately.
Posted by: Medium Rare« on: February 17, 2012, 02:14 pm »The original post here was really good. Please don't let a little twat like Jacob take it over. Good idea. Posted by: Bluzeman« on: February 17, 2012, 01:55 pm »The original post here was really good. Please don't let a little twat like Jacob take it over.
Posted by: Pollock« on: February 17, 2012, 01:21 pm »....females have a right to an abortion - a right a male can never have). It's legal in the US, but not everywhere else. I get your point, but you prolly shoulda used a different example http://www.womenonwaves.org/set-158-en.html Oh, and most people hate the religion argument, not just ARA's because religion is used to justify all sorts of atrocities, not just animal abuse. So then why is jesusveg one of the first items cited by multitudes of ARAs?
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